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Are these molecules conjugated?

March 8, 2011 By James Ashenhurst 19 Comments

If Org 2 has an overall theme, it’s “resonance”. Today’s post has a very simple message. Atoms with lone pairs, π bonds, radicals, and carbocations can participate in resonance: atoms that lack any of these features cannot.

One way in which this comes up is in determining whether two alkenes are “conjugated” or not.  A full discussion of conjugation is for another time, but “conjugation” is the name we give for the phenomenon where π  electrons (that is, “electrons in p orbitals”)  can be shared over more than 3 or more atoms.

Here’s an example of a conjugated diene and a non-conjugated dienes.

1-conjugated

The thing is, we can also have alkenes which are conjugated with each other even through they are not directly attached. The only requirement is that we require an atom in between which can participate in resonance. This can take at least four forms:

  • A carbon (or other atom) with an empty p orbital (e.g. a carbocation)
  • A carbon with a half-filled p orbital (e.g. a radical)
  • A carbon with a lone pair (carbanion)
  • Any other atom with a lone pair (e.g. N, O, S, etc.)

In each of these we can draw resonance forms where the middle atom participates in a π bond. This implies that the electrons are being shared (“delocalized”) between this central atom and the alkenes on the side, and thus the whole system is ‘conjugated’.

2-conjugated

Why does this matter, you may ask? Because some day, I have a hunch that you might be asked whether the following rings are conjugated or not, and you might need to come up with a good answer….

3-rings

Related Posts:

  • Molecular Orbitals of The Allyl Cation, Allyl Radical, and Allyl Anion
  • The Three Classes of Nucleophiles
  • The Mesomeric Effect And Aromatic Amines
  • Conjugation and Resonance

Filed Under: Alkenes, Chemical Bonds, Organic Chemistry 2, Where Electrons Are Tagged With: carbanions, carbocations, conjugation, dienes, lone pairs, molecular orbitals, pi donation, radicals, resonance

Comments

  1. A. Easton says

    March 8, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    I love your posts, they’re always informative! Thanks!

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    • James says

      March 10, 2011 at 9:11 am

      Thanks!

      Reply
  2. laxmi says

    July 28, 2011 at 3:49 am

    your posts are very helpful to me sir,thank u somuch

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  3. ap_13 says

    January 30, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    I would have loved it if you explained this phenomenon in terms of vbt n mot

    Reply
  4. Binh says

    February 10, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    Thank you for your posts!!! AND your website! I love that I’m able to access all the information for free. I’ve been struggling with chemistry for a very long time. Your website is very helpful!

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    • james says

      February 10, 2012 at 6:57 pm

      Thanks Binh.

      Reply
  5. danielle says

    February 23, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    Thank you so much! I am in Orgo II right now and am struggling but these really help me a lot!

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    • james says

      February 24, 2012 at 1:38 am

      Glad it was helpful Danielle!

      Reply
  6. John Henry says

    April 11, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    Thank you for helping me remember my Chemistry!

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  7. Kendall says

    February 18, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    I’m so glad you put the “exceptions” to the rule on your posts. My teacher always forgets to tell us when the rule doesn’t apply, and I always come to your blog to gain a better understanding of the material. Thanks!

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  8. stick says

    March 17, 2015 at 7:10 am

    Whats the answers to the structure above.

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    • James says

      March 25, 2015 at 6:00 pm

      The key point comes up in the context of “aromaticity”. In order for a molecule to be aromatic, ALL of the carbons of the ring have to be able to participate in resonance. In the question at the bottom of the post, can you see any rings where there are carbons that CAN’T participate in resonance ? : – )

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      • Alyaa says

        April 8, 2015 at 8:55 am

        So all of it can form resonance except the first one?

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        • James says

          April 10, 2015 at 5:37 pm

          For the purposes of determining aromaticity, the first one is not conjugated all the way around the ring. The others are.

          Reply
  9. Angela says

    July 6, 2015 at 1:15 pm

    Thank you so much for this great resource!

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  10. Asmat Elahi says

    July 25, 2015 at 5:33 am

    Thanks for helping to understand conjugated and not conjugated molecules.

    Reply
  11. suleman says

    December 20, 2015 at 3:21 am

    sir please explain isolated,congugate and cumulated type differentiate among them

    Reply
    • James says

      December 21, 2015 at 8:23 pm

      That’s something you can google.

      Reply
  12. Akarshi says

    September 1, 2017 at 2:01 am

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